question:0:0:0.0 --> 0:0:7.30 Keith Low Internally have I think ping Ping mentioned something about some UI that was actually discussed with you earlier. 0:0:7.40 --> 0:0:11.480 Keith Low So I think we need to understand that more from painting as well as from you. 0:0:12.860 --> 0:0:15.950 Keith Low Uh, Jasmine and and please keep me. 0:0:17.80 --> 0:0:18.120 Keith Low Uh during this meeting. 0:0:19.500 --> 0:0:20.230 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah, sure. 0:0:20.370 --> 0:0:22.290 Duraid Wadie Pick do you wanna give me some context over. 0:0:24.320 --> 0:0:24.490 Ping Ping Lau And. 0:0:24.140 --> 0:0:25.970 Jasmine Tang I think maybe it's yeah. 0:0:25.980 --> 0:0:26.310 Jasmine Tang Sorry. 0:0:26.560 --> 0:0:26.790 Jasmine Tang Yeah. 0:0:26.760 --> 0:0:27.690 Ping Ping Lau Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. 0:0:26.800 --> 0:0:32.930 Jasmine Tang I just think thinking that maybe it's good to show the the Excel that outlined by Bing Bing, yeah. 0:0:32.120 --> 0:0:32.940 Keith Low Yeah, the Excel file. 0:0:39.490 --> 0:0:40.400 Jasmine Tang Driving bingo. 0:0:39.620 --> 0:0:43.670 Keith Low Uh, yeah, I don't have the excel to share a thing. 0:0:43.680 --> 0:0:44.180 Keith Low If you can share. 0:0:44.910 --> 0:0:48.240 Ping Ping Lau Ah, OK uh, that's being editor. 0:0:48.250 --> 0:0:55.280 Ping Ping Lau I don't never which one should I open Netflix See umm. 0:0:58.670 --> 0:1:14.170 Jasmine Tang Thing as per the meeting, the on the meeting that we have, I think I just amend on the one that you share on the Excel which I I shared to you right after the meeting on the amendment part after the meeting, yeah. 0:1:13.180 --> 0:1:14.930 Ping Ping Lau OK, so soon. 0:1:26.920 --> 0:1:41.470 Ping Ping Lau So I can find it and this is in which meeting call uh, I should have a local one which which may not be updated by this is enough for us to use it as a discussion stemming open that. 0:1:46.840 --> 0:1:47.260 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:1:50.160 --> 0:1:50.400 Ping Ping Lau Yeah. 0:1:47.270 --> 0:1:50.740 Duraid Wadie I just got remember the context solely anything would be helpful. 0:1:52.0 --> 0:1:52.930 Keith Low You got too many things. 0:1:54.0 --> 0:1:55.970 Ping Ping Lau OK, now I I share my screen. 0:1:58.840 --> 0:1:59.390 Ping Ping Lau OK. 0:1:59.400 --> 0:2:1.980 Ping Ping Lau So can you see my screen I that the Excel file? 0:2:1.930 --> 0:2:2.340 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:2:1.570 --> 0:2:2.740 Keith Low Umm Yep. 0:2:2.410 --> 0:2:3.70 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:2:3.370 --> 0:2:3.580 Ping Ping Lau Yeah. 0:2:3.590 --> 0:2:7.600 Ping Ping Lau So we will go going through this estimation first. 0:2:7.610 --> 0:2:11.820 Ping Ping Lau The platform also need to put down their estimations on different tasks, right? 0:2:11.990 --> 0:2:13.780 Ping Ping Lau So we do have this UI. 0:2:15.50 --> 0:2:20.330 Ping Ping Lau I don't say I put down during the early day with Me 2 corridor estimation. 0:2:21.330 --> 0:2:22.700 Ping Ping Lau Umm so why? 0:2:22.710 --> 0:2:24.180 Ping Ping Lau Why do I put down on you? 0:2:36.280 --> 0:2:37.190 Duraid Wadie Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:2:24.190 --> 0:2:38.100 Ping Ping Lau I like this because during the time we do several integration, we did mention that platform should have a UI for either cloud OPS or whoever that do the provisioning. Yeah. 0:2:38.290 --> 0:2:45.960 Ping Ping Lau So this but then when I bring this up, I think Jasmine, uh Keith have no idea. 0:2:45.970 --> 0:2:47.530 Ping Ping Lau Like exactly what I do. 0:2:47.540 --> 0:2:47.890 Ping Ping Lau I did. 0:2:47.900 --> 0:2:50.740 Ping Ping Lau We are talking about what should be included into the UI. 0:2:52.420 --> 0:2:53.110 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:2:53.120 --> 0:2:57.300 Duraid Wadie So the provisioning team already doing some UI anyway, right? 0:2:57.310 --> 0:3:0.50 Duraid Wadie So that's what they do in as far as I know. 0:3:0.60 --> 0:3:3.580 Duraid Wadie But instead of touching the API to provision, they have some UI. 0:3:5.370 --> 0:3:7.600 Duraid Wadie They'll be the same thing really, when we do. 0:3:7.610 --> 0:3:17.360 Duraid Wadie Maybe the licensing and so on and so on, that that's the whole idea is actually bringing some admin you I for example we would need an admin UI a little bit to see all the tenants. 0:3:19.350 --> 0:3:21.260 Duraid Wadie Things like that, those are actually admin. 0:3:21.270 --> 0:3:28.400 Duraid Wadie Your eyes should not be accessed by anybody else, apart from by the, I would say, you know Ideagen and stuff. 0:3:28.570 --> 0:3:29.980 Duraid Wadie Not not anybody else? 0:3:29.990 --> 0:3:33.420 Duraid Wadie I've asked really what what I meant by that specific UI. 0:3:34.980 --> 0:3:35.190 Ping Ping Lau Uh. 0:3:34.630 --> 0:3:35.350 SueAnn See OK so. 0:3:42.50 --> 0:3:43.40 Duraid Wadie That would be multiple. 0:3:43.50 --> 0:3:43.970 Duraid Wadie Open your eyes. 0:3:43.980 --> 0:3:44.320 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:3:36.430 --> 0:3:44.400 Keith Low Yeah, if I understand correctly, you're referring to the provisioning UI as well as the renewal UI at this point in time likely. Ah. 0:3:44.330 --> 0:3:46.760 Duraid Wadie So there won't be multiple admin your eyes to be honest with you. 0:3:46.770 --> 0:3:57.120 Duraid Wadie That's what will happen in the end, like some of our provisioning, some of it on the file storage, some of it all over dependence with you and those type of admin UI is actually multiple Ideagen stuff. 0:3:57.290 --> 0:4:6.180 Duraid Wadie It's more really of actually making it somewhere accessible and easier way instead of just going to all of these pages all over. 0:4:8.340 --> 0:4:13.340 Duraid Wadie Even though those pages still all one just somewhere to redirect, you know those admin users I would say. 0:4:16.540 --> 0:4:20.330 Ping Ping Lau I'm not sure about the provisioning you I what is included. 0:4:20.520 --> 0:4:27.620 Ping Ping Lau So for example, some of the let's say for example, if you were to allow to customize the. 0:4:29.510 --> 0:4:30.640 Ping Ping Lau External connections. 0:4:30.650 --> 0:4:35.860 Ping Ping Lau Let's say that it is your AD belongs to the customers I. 0:4:36.980 --> 0:4:37.820 Ping Ping Lau At some point. 0:4:37.20 --> 0:4:37.830 Duraid Wadie That's the customer. 0:4:37.840 --> 0:4:38.290 Duraid Wadie Your eye. 0:4:38.300 --> 0:4:38.720 Duraid Wadie Bing Bing. 0:4:38.730 --> 0:4:39.670 Duraid Wadie Yeah, that's a customer. 0:4:39.680 --> 0:4:43.530 Duraid Wadie You're not an admin UI that that's like a customer add menu. 0:4:43.540 --> 0:4:47.440 Duraid Wadie I not Ideagen and your I this thing just a little bit different that. 0:4:48.780 --> 0:4:56.430 Ping Ping Lau Customer you are because during the onboarding of the customer, we have to create those involved into the authentication service. 0:5:1.420 --> 0:5:2.510 Duraid Wadie Yeah, that's how the platform. 0:5:2.520 --> 0:5:2.690 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:4:56.980 --> 0:5:3.180 Ping Ping Lau So isn't it that should be done at the platform, went on board and yeah. 0:5:2.700 --> 0:5:3.210 Duraid Wadie Yeah, definitely. 0:5:4.720 --> 0:5:6.370 Duraid Wadie Yeah, you remember that salassa. 0:5:6.380 --> 0:5:9.730 Duraid Wadie So configuration that stays similar I would say how it was. 0:5:10.80 --> 0:5:33.240 Duraid Wadie Well, that's what raining more of a user, you know, like the customer himself is got some admin right to actually enter this data or with the help of our IT doing this data they I am talking about is actually more of just idea agent administrations here if that makes sense which is really it's like things the customer doesn't need to deal with at all. 0:5:35.650 --> 0:5:40.220 Duraid Wadie So the sum UI stays at the platform some UI that actually just administration UI. 0:5:44.630 --> 0:5:45.600 Keith Low So the menu. 0:5:44.900 --> 0:5:46.800 Duraid Wadie Of God. Sorry. 0:5:46.700 --> 0:5:47.130 Keith Low Why? 0:5:47.140 --> 0:5:55.780 Keith Low I mean, uh, provisioning of users, the renewal or anything you mentioned about our file storage, maybe that is a setting up. 0:5:56.50 --> 0:5:57.320 Keith Low How much they can consume? 0:5:58.150 --> 0:5:59.100 Duraid Wadie Things like that. Yeah. 0:5:59.110 --> 0:5:59.320 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:5:59.30 --> 0:5:59.540 Keith Low Yeah. 0:5:59.330 --> 0:5:59.630 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:5:59.690 --> 0:6:0.810 Duraid Wadie So yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:5:59.620 --> 0:6:2.240 Keith Low Umm, OK, OK. 0:6:2.330 --> 0:6:5.400 Keith Low And the other UI create external IDP UI. 0:6:5.410 --> 0:6:8.540 Keith Low That would be something similar here or no? 0:6:13.300 --> 0:6:13.580 Keith Low Hmm. 0:6:7.670 --> 0:6:19.840 Duraid Wadie No, that, that that actually is a customer's administration that's different than our staff administration, if that makes sense, because the customer would need to go and change some state might need to go change. 0:6:19.850 --> 0:6:20.260 Duraid Wadie I don't know. 0:6:20.270 --> 0:6:24.100 Duraid Wadie Whatever they want to change right with this external assessors, they will change it. 0:6:24.610 --> 0:6:26.220 Duraid Wadie They should have full control on that. 0:6:26.230 --> 0:6:31.180 Duraid Wadie I would say that the customer, but it's like an admin within the customer, not anybody can go and change the stuff. 0:6:32.650 --> 0:6:33.470 Keith Low And then I mean, yeah. 0:6:34.890 --> 0:6:36.600 Jasmine Tang Uh, do we just want to confirm? 0:6:36.610 --> 0:6:42.880 Jasmine Tang Uh, so I'm now referring more to the customer configuration and management. 0:6:42.490 --> 0:6:43.680 Duraid Wadie Yeah. Umm. 0:6:53.550 --> 0:6:54.770 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:7:2.730 --> 0:7:3.580 Duraid Wadie Yeah, that's Farr. 0:6:43.10 --> 0:7:3.810 Jasmine Tang So is the UI that we referring will be the one that very similar to the the one the last time we developed from I home BAU regarding the tenant, OK is it the one that in the UI level we will have those like client ID, client secret although issuer things and that in setting up those options. 0:7:3.590 --> 0:7:4.760 Duraid Wadie Backs analysis shows, yeah. 0:7:5.680 --> 0:7:9.560 Jasmine Tang OK, so how would it be? 0:7:9.610 --> 0:7:29.60 Jasmine Tang I mean the differences between those that we have been scope and done in the IHOME behavior with compared to this, will there be any differences or or maybe I can maybe let me because right now we don't have the environment anymore as in that I can share. 0:7:29.70 --> 0:7:32.810 Jasmine Tang But I think we have some screenshot of it maybe. 0:7:35.80 --> 0:7:39.980 Jasmine Tang I can share and check with you whether that's is the one that uh is referring, OK. 0:7:38.580 --> 0:7:40.0 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah, I remember. 0:7:40.10 --> 0:7:43.120 Duraid Wadie I actually Jasper, that's what the for external authentication, right? 0:7:46.130 --> 0:7:47.340 Duraid Wadie It will be different. 0:7:43.760 --> 0:7:47.900 Jasmine Tang Yeah, but I just want to confirm on top of that, OK. 0:7:47.570 --> 0:7:47.960 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:7:47.970 --> 0:7:50.680 Duraid Wadie So the open ID configuration will be similar. 0:7:50.950 --> 0:7:57.150 Duraid Wadie You would have another one now where actually doing some configuration after that if that makes sense. 0:7:57.160 --> 0:7:59.140 Duraid Wadie So there will be multiple ones. 0:7:59.150 --> 0:8:10.280 Duraid Wadie So we've done the open ID will be very similar to that the way we go figure out and there will be another one later on coming in with just that's really more of what we're gonna. 0:8:10.510 --> 0:8:12.860 Duraid Wadie No, I would say integrate with the new auth system. 0:8:12.870 --> 0:8:14.450 Duraid Wadie We have to support the sum of two. 0:8:19.490 --> 0:8:20.740 Duraid Wadie The the that make any sense? 0:8:20.630 --> 0:8:20.920 Keith Low Umm. 0:8:20.750 --> 0:8:32.510 Duraid Wadie So the first one, we did the open ID that was technically ever take is is the same by Samuel is with the SAML is just but more it would be another you. 0:8:32.520 --> 0:8:39.990 Duraid Wadie I would actually say, let's say when you say configure external auth, you have to choose OK which one you wanna do is it summer or is it open ID? 0:8:44.950 --> 0:8:45.390 Jasmine Tang OK. 0:8:40.80 --> 0:8:46.860 Duraid Wadie For example, if it's Openid we show, similarly it to the one we have for some all it will be a different UI. 0:8:46.870 --> 0:8:49.920 Duraid Wadie Probably pick Ping product sheet to tell you what needs to be configured. 0:8:51.500 --> 0:8:51.900 Jasmine Tang Ohh. 0:8:50.170 --> 0:8:53.560 Duraid Wadie From that, I don't know, probably was part of some purposes. 0:8:53.570 --> 0:8:54.260 Duraid Wadie We've done, isn't it? 0:8:54.960 --> 0:8:56.170 Jasmine Tang Umm, OK. 0:8:56.180 --> 0:8:58.720 Jasmine Tang So mean to say there will be 2 separate UI. 0:8:58.730 --> 0:8:59.340 Jasmine Tang Uh. 0:9:2.710 --> 0:9:3.440 Duraid Wadie That's right. 0:8:59.400 --> 0:9:3.820 Jasmine Tang With respect to the different protocol, I would say is that correct? OK. 0:9:3.450 --> 0:9:3.940 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:9:3.990 --> 0:9:4.390 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:9:4.450 --> 0:9:12.180 Duraid Wadie So we're talking about just to make sure this is for the idea Gen home we talking about that. 0:9:12.390 --> 0:9:16.30 Duraid Wadie That's really what all the new the existing product will come in and write. 0:9:17.330 --> 0:9:17.770 Ping Ping Lau Yeah, yeah. 0:9:19.960 --> 0:9:21.290 Ping Ping Lau Uh, I slide this in home. 0:9:22.550 --> 0:9:22.840 Ping Ping Lau OK. 0:9:23.50 --> 0:9:24.0 Ping Ping Lau Service now we talk. 0:9:25.960 --> 0:9:39.640 Ping Ping Lau And it's the one that, because this, this is the the context for this are, is together with the off service the user saying, yeah, I don't have it in this this not update that but then it's for that version. 0:9:40.660 --> 0:9:41.30 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:9:41.40 --> 0:9:46.340 Duraid Wadie So that's when they need to build some intermediate layer for the summer than they I for that is not affecting. 0:9:46.770 --> 0:9:47.60 Ping Ping Lau Yeah. 0:9:47.70 --> 0:9:47.300 Ping Ping Lau Yeah. 0:9:47.630 --> 0:9:47.950 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah. 0:9:52.700 --> 0:9:53.560 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:9:47.310 --> 0:9:53.750 Ping Ping Lau And this should be the the the versions that supports the integration with different products that we want to do here. 0:9:59.710 --> 0:10:1.620 Ping Ping Lau I just mean you want to share your screenshot. 0:10:3.50 --> 0:10:13.450 Jasmine Tang I'm still searching for it, but the the closer the screenshot that I umm I have is this uh, maybe I would just put on the check. 0:10:13.500 --> 0:10:14.280 Jasmine Tang Give me a second. 0:10:25.700 --> 0:10:25.970 Jasmine Tang Right. 0:10:31.670 --> 0:10:31.910 Duraid Wadie Yep. 0:10:25.980 --> 0:10:32.250 Jasmine Tang So this is for the uh OIDC, uh external identity provider setup. 0:10:32.390 --> 0:10:33.690 Jasmine Tang Yeah, right. 0:10:33.410 --> 0:10:35.740 Duraid Wadie Yeah, that's stays, give or take. 0:10:35.750 --> 0:10:37.150 Duraid Wadie Similar thing, to be honest with you. 0:10:42.620 --> 0:10:42.810 Jasmine Tang Right. 0:10:42.260 --> 0:10:45.300 Duraid Wadie But we would need to have another one for some of that bus or what would happen. 0:10:46.130 --> 0:10:46.360 Jasmine Tang Umm. 0:10:47.100 --> 0:10:51.30 Duraid Wadie And I would say this internal external. 0:10:53.580 --> 0:10:57.250 Duraid Wadie So the idea we might actually be supporting multiple of these. 0:11:2.420 --> 0:11:3.400 Duraid Wadie If that makes sense. 0:11:4.490 --> 0:11:8.820 Duraid Wadie So what we're going to say external, we're going to say, OK, which one of them is an open ID? 0:11:8.830 --> 0:11:13.400 Duraid Wadie Is it somehow if it's open ID you go full an technically go take. 0:11:13.410 --> 0:11:14.980 Duraid Wadie This is exactly what we're looking at here. 0:11:14.990 --> 0:11:18.500 Duraid Wadie If they're us with you for some a little bit different than this. 0:11:23.300 --> 0:11:24.890 Duraid Wadie Which is. Uh, yeah. 0:11:24.900 --> 0:11:25.300 Duraid Wadie What? Sorry. 0:11:23.550 --> 0:11:26.620 Jasmine Tang Right. Sorry. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.100 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:11:26.670 --> 0:11:35.610 Jasmine Tang I mean, like for summer, I might need to further understand from uh PingPing or maybe from you as in like those parameter that we need to cut that take note. Yeah. 0:11:37.680 --> 0:11:38.530 Keith Low What's a motto? 0:11:38.540 --> 0:11:40.320 Keith Low Be different or just same as ammo? 0:11:43.100 --> 0:11:45.400 Ping Ping Lau We should be honest, supporting several too, right? 0:11:46.250 --> 0:11:47.50 Duraid Wadie Umm, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:11:47.590 --> 0:11:47.890 Keith Low Umm. 0:11:50.530 --> 0:11:55.300 Keith Low OK so basically for this page there will be 2/2 distinct page. 0:11:56.710 --> 0:11:57.840 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah. 0:11:58.210 --> 0:11:59.600 Keith Low Umm yeah. 0:11:57.890 --> 0:12:4.350 Duraid Wadie 2 pages, one for open ID, one for Samuel and technically the client can have multiple if he wants, like more than one. 0:12:4.860 --> 0:12:5.60 Keith Low Umm. 0:12:6.220 --> 0:12:9.280 Ping Ping Lau And that for the UI of spective. 0:12:9.300 --> 0:12:11.630 Ping Ping Lau Admins is not limited to what in seasons now. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:20.170 Ping Ping Lau That means for any actions that we want to allow user to perform, I we would for sure have an API for that. 0:12:20.180 --> 0:12:25.730 Ping Ping Lau But that means also we should have a little I to that user to configure from the screen. 0:12:27.560 --> 0:12:27.760 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:12:26.940 --> 0:12:39.460 Ping Ping Lau So yeah, there is just as an example, if they say we stick to off 0 and we want to control how the external user can be on board, we discussed that we will use the database to control that. 0:12:39.730 --> 0:12:41.940 Ping Ping Lau So uploading those user to the. 0:12:44.900 --> 0:12:50.130 Ping Ping Lau Two to the database they they allow us, they allow for the external. 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:58.790 Ping Ping Lau Yeah, I would indication they shall be done in the you mentioned about the user admin or it shall be done from the. 0:13:0.980 --> 0:13:2.410 Duraid Wadie Uh, without still a platform. 0:13:2.420 --> 0:13:8.360 Duraid Wadie So when you doing this Bill comport right where we see in here, let's say that role in some must 6, right? 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:10.930 Ping Ping Lau Yeah. 0:13:10.940 --> 0:13:11.670 Ping Ping Lau Yes, it's on. 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:12.720 Ping Ping Lau I like that. 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:12.790 Duraid Wadie The current. 0:13:13.300 --> 0:13:13.870 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.170 Duraid Wadie So the current doesn't matter what it goes right? 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:21.10 Duraid Wadie Because the the platform needs to build this abstract layout. 0:13:21.80 --> 0:13:23.0 Duraid Wadie Very important to do this in abstract layer. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:25.20 Ping Ping Lau OK. 0:13:25.80 --> 0:13:28.290 Duraid Wadie So yeah, and the abstract layer is really talking to this auth system. 0:13:29.300 --> 0:13:30.410 Duraid Wadie Where is it gonna go? 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:31.290 Duraid Wadie I would actually say. 0:13:32.170 --> 0:13:40.520 Ping Ping Lau So whether we go for uh, because key for doesn't require this, but whether we go for Coronado or we for for all zero and we need to do this. 0:13:40.830 --> 0:13:47.740 Ping Ping Lau So we should expect platform to have a new I that allow the editing stuff too. 0:13:46.780 --> 0:13:51.920 Duraid Wadie So your eye is exist the I mean, let's say at the moment they have just the CSV import, right? 0:13:51.930 --> 0:13:52.750 Duraid Wadie That's what they have. 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:57.670 Ping Ping Lau Umm. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:14:0.740 Duraid Wadie Or they have one user created money only at the time which is the user credit money only stays as it is to Venezuela. 0:14:0.750 --> 0:14:19.850 Duraid Wadie If there's just a local basic authentication, the on port where the CSV is, you're going to have the same UI with the guys have it now, but what happens is when they see the local user they the abstraction layer is just the create a user, let's say on cognito or auth 0 locally right? 0:14:20.220 --> 0:14:24.970 Duraid Wadie And if it's an external user, they will create it, let's say in cognito. 0:14:24.980 --> 0:14:27.890 Duraid Wadie Maybe use a Dynamo and auth 0 user and their own. 0:14:28.100 --> 0:14:30.710 Duraid Wadie The external local DB we talking about that makes sense. 0:14:31.130 --> 0:14:31.460 Ping Ping Lau Yeah. 0:14:31.530 --> 0:14:31.670 Ping Ping Lau Yeah. 0:14:33.350 --> 0:14:35.140 Ping Ping Lau OK, right. 0:14:40.970 --> 0:14:41.400 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:14:41.450 --> 0:14:41.660 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:14:35.150 --> 0:14:42.110 Ping Ping Lau So we will stick to the import user features, but in uh platform will handle this at the back end OK. 0:14:41.670 --> 0:14:42.250 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:14:44.60 --> 0:14:46.550 Duraid Wadie And make sure they have a structured PingPing hookers. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:47.330 Duraid Wadie That's important. 0:14:47.390 --> 0:14:49.580 Duraid Wadie You know, again, we don't know why the agent do tomorrow. 0:14:50.530 --> 0:14:50.870 Ping Ping Lau OK. 0:14:54.710 --> 0:15:13.230 Duraid Wadie But but the way we Unported users, I would actually say I don't know if, Keith, you've reached to the multiple product who's going to integrate, how they expect it today the import because at the moment we only have CSV import that might not be acceptable for for those product who's going to integrate. 0:15:14.690 --> 0:15:15.250 Keith Low Uh. 0:15:15.260 --> 0:15:18.520 Keith Low Spoken to all the four products that basically worked. 0:15:18.530 --> 0:15:24.340 Keith Low Please review of central and there won't be, uh, all of them are able to support a CSV. 0:15:24.430 --> 0:15:33.40 Keith Low Of course they have some other methods, while some, like for example workload is we even email, but at least all of them are able to support the CSV. 0:15:34.300 --> 0:15:37.880 Duraid Wadie Umm did we get an examples of what's in those CSV's? OK. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:40.150 Keith Low I don't have. 0:15:41.190 --> 0:15:41.970 Duraid Wadie Yeah, please. 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.10 Keith Low I can ask them, yeah. 0:15:41.980 --> 0:15:43.440 Duraid Wadie So what happens is, right. 0:15:51.290 --> 0:15:51.470 Keith Low Yeah. 0:15:43.810 --> 0:15:52.520 Duraid Wadie So we're gonna have our standard attributes of a user, then the those product will expect way more than that from their users from their customers. 0:15:53.230 --> 0:15:54.220 Duraid Wadie This we have to pay. 0:15:54.230 --> 0:15:56.260 Duraid Wadie Take in save and just pass away. 0:15:56.770 --> 0:15:57.990 Duraid Wadie When we do our user sync. 0:16:5.750 --> 0:16:8.490 Ping Ping Lau And this is a mall and updated versions. 0:16:12.230 --> 0:16:13.330 Ping Ping Lau Yeah, the user see. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:18.280 Jasmine Tang Right. 0:16:18.290 --> 0:16:21.140 Jasmine Tang So Duraid just on top of this user import, right? 0:16:21.660 --> 0:16:39.970 Jasmine Tang I just wondering, let's say we have the existing attribute which is what we have in right now and then say Dumbo, we have the example from the work right or from the OPS central on the attribute, I foresee it would be different from us. 0:16:46.860 --> 0:16:47.330 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:16:47.340 --> 0:16:48.370 Duraid Wadie So what will be? 0:16:39.980 --> 0:16:48.380 Jasmine Tang I mean, they might have additional attribute or few things and that so I mean what would be the next step actually I mean for us to kind of like umm. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:49.90 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:16:49.100 --> 0:16:52.370 Duraid Wadie So you take those attributes from your CSV or portal, right? 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.690 Duraid Wadie You take them all, you save them all. 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:56.90 Duraid Wadie You don't care about them. 0:16:56.180 --> 0:16:57.500 Duraid Wadie He just passed them to the product. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:2.330 Duraid Wadie So we have in our database, right, we have the attributes we care about. 0:17:2.800 --> 0:17:5.750 Duraid Wadie Let's say first name, titles, name, email. 0:17:6.150 --> 0:17:7.80 Duraid Wadie I don't know what else. 0:17:7.90 --> 0:17:7.320 Duraid Wadie Right. 0:17:8.220 --> 0:17:12.830 Duraid Wadie Thus, we take from the importer and we save them all. The rest. 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:18.690 Duraid Wadie I would say create maybe adjacent document or something for every user and it just save it. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.710 Duraid Wadie We don't care about it. 0:17:21.110 --> 0:17:21.940 Duraid Wadie We just pass it. 0:17:22.980 --> 0:17:23.660 Duraid Wadie That makes sense. 0:17:26.380 --> 0:17:27.820 Jasmine Tang So you're your umm? 0:17:26.530 --> 0:17:32.190 Duraid Wadie But we need to think about this bit right because what happens is this might change often. 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:37.520 Duraid Wadie You know, like the the product may have that they might wanna actually ask the customer for the roles, right? 0:17:37.530 --> 0:17:39.300 Duraid Wadie I don't know what they are asking for this attributes. 0:17:39.310 --> 0:17:39.720 Duraid Wadie I have no idea. 0:17:39.730 --> 0:17:41.430 Duraid Wadie I haven't seen any to Venus with you. 0:17:43.670 --> 0:17:55.470 Duraid Wadie But it's it's more of a product centric than US I would say, but because we are one way user sync today we have to take everything they give us and we pass it to them if that makes sense. 0:18:4.530 --> 0:18:9.820 Ping Ping Lau So the degree is saying because we have the user signal, if they say the user sync information is. 0:18:9.830 --> 0:18:27.470 Ping Ping Lau So by implementing the library that listening to the create user events so all the products are we getting and then the product will just decide which attributes days required for them to to save into their own local database for further processing. 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:28.930 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:18:28.940 --> 0:18:31.570 Duraid Wadie I mean, it's better for the other one like it because it's very messy. 0:18:31.580 --> 0:18:33.530 Duraid Wadie This what happens here. 0:18:33.540 --> 0:18:38.480 Duraid Wadie With that, I mean at this first stage is not gonna be a big deal. 0:18:38.490 --> 0:18:41.410 Duraid Wadie Later on, it's gonna be better for more deal better. 0:18:41.420 --> 0:18:45.440 Duraid Wadie So they were multiple product have different attributes for each product. 0:18:45.450 --> 0:18:48.410 Duraid Wadie That's really when the the the mess is gonna start. 0:18:48.490 --> 0:18:48.870 Duraid Wadie They were. 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:53.270 Duraid Wadie They were the first iteration of this you're not gonna see this or of what's going on here. 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:0.300 Duraid Wadie Of course. 0:18:55.500 --> 0:19:1.750 Ping Ping Lau Yeah, because the the thing user might be having access to two different products that require to different distribute set. 0:19:1.280 --> 0:19:2.150 Duraid Wadie Of course. Yeah. 0:19:2.160 --> 0:19:2.830 Duraid Wadie Yeah, I know. 0:19:2.920 --> 0:19:4.210 Duraid Wadie I know. Yeah. 0:19:3.490 --> 0:19:5.70 Ping Ping Lau So he just passed out. Everything's. 0:19:8.400 --> 0:19:8.750 Ping Ping Lau True. 0:19:6.440 --> 0:19:13.690 Duraid Wadie A solo weekend too, because we can actually that that's that's that's the I would actually say. 0:19:13.700 --> 0:19:26.510 Duraid Wadie One of the drawback of the 111 way sync because once you have those multiple product avenues, if we start our controlling those custom attributes, we will end up with a bit of mass here. 0:19:26.900 --> 0:19:34.510 Duraid Wadie So you have to know all of those customer attributes belong to which product device with you at some point. 0:19:34.590 --> 0:19:37.590 Duraid Wadie Maybe not today, but at some point, if that makes sense. 0:19:39.370 --> 0:19:43.300 Keith Low I think for all those four product uh, I should already have the information. 0:19:44.380 --> 0:19:45.400 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah. 0:19:43.310 --> 0:19:47.460 Keith Low Let let me consolidate all the email because I sent them so many emails. 0:19:47.820 --> 0:19:50.820 Keith Low I remember they did reply me with some examples. 0:19:51.110 --> 0:19:55.730 Keith Low I will consolidate all of the attributes then I think I shared with everyone here. 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.500 Duraid Wadie And but of the consolidate maybe yeah. 0:19:56.570 --> 0:20:1.130 SueAnn See Uh, Keith, actually, I already did the consolidation in the confluence page. 0:20:1.20 --> 0:20:1.760 Keith Low Uh. Conflict page. 0:20:2.890 --> 0:20:3.540 Keith Low Yeah. 0:20:3.600 --> 0:20:3.840 SueAnn See I saw. 0:20:3.610 --> 0:20:4.500 Keith Low Hmm, OK. 0:20:5.890 --> 0:20:6.350 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:20:6.360 --> 0:20:13.890 Duraid Wadie I think instead of consolidation of all of those attributes first, right, let's see them individually, you know like to try to understand. 0:20:16.80 --> 0:20:19.190 Duraid Wadie Can they consolidated or not first first hand right? 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.150 Duraid Wadie Because they're all or something in one product might make. 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.510 Duraid Wadie I don't know my need something else and the other part of the I don't know. 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:27.940 Duraid Wadie I mean, yeah, maybe we just have a quote. 0:20:27.950 --> 0:20:30.10 Duraid Wadie I mean, whenever you have, I can have a quick look at it. 0:20:30.870 --> 0:20:31.110 Keith Low Sure. 0:20:41.660 --> 0:20:42.320 Duraid Wadie That's right. 0:20:42.650 --> 0:20:42.790 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.70 Duraid Wadie Umm, that's what I've that's right. 0:20:32.130 --> 0:20:47.650 Kar King Siew So Saudi Arabia, actually the the risk here is when a product has changes on any auto service attributes then we might have problem right in the long term support umm OK then. 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:53.450 Duraid Wadie So this is the problem with parking with the with how we go with the design this right at the database level. 0:20:53.460 --> 0:20:59.250 Duraid Wadie Now, are you gonna do I, for example, let's say you have 20 bunch of attributes here, right? 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:6.190 Duraid Wadie You don't wanna be creating, you know, let's say in your documents, you know the Nosql level, right? 0:21:6.720 --> 0:21:13.750 Duraid Wadie You might need to create a sub document just for those attributes, so it's not going to be in the main user document. 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:22.310 Duraid Wadie I don't know how you would design this, but we can probably sit down and if you want to validate this I can get AWS guide to validate that as well. 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.200 Duraid Wadie And they actually say what best way to do it. 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:37.440 Duraid Wadie Because body of mine does customer my only change those attribute for a user and it says on port that again that makes sense. 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:39.870 Duraid Wadie So we need that technical session. 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:43.350 Duraid Wadie I think Carpenter go a bit more details into the slight Rd. 0:21:48.50 --> 0:21:49.620 Kar King Siew Yeah, yeah, I understand that. 0:21:49.710 --> 0:21:50.620 Kar King Siew Probably probably. 0:21:50.630 --> 0:21:56.640 Kar King Siew Yeah, I think all the product need to sit down and agree on certain fields. 0:21:56.710 --> 0:22:6.120 Kar King Siew Uh, those common fields which are which are mandatory and those extra few can put under additional views. 0:22:6.260 --> 0:22:12.160 Kar King Siew Those are the flexible one which which can be added and by a remove. 0:22:13.220 --> 0:22:13.660 Keith Low I think so. 0:22:13.140 --> 0:22:16.890 Duraid Wadie Yeah, I mean, like I'm, I'm seeing some of these attributes like images, right? 0:22:16.900 --> 0:22:20.770 Duraid Wadie What format provided the image with is that from the Active Directory? 0:22:20.780 --> 0:22:21.470 Duraid Wadie What is this? 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:23.400 Duraid Wadie How they provide in this data. 0:22:24.590 --> 0:22:34.900 Duraid Wadie So I think we need more information, maybe we add another column there, we call it, comment like our comments to the product first before we this is like more of a gathering stage in our parking before it gets to you guys. 0:22:34.910 --> 0:22:35.290 Duraid Wadie So I would say. 0:22:39.260 --> 0:22:45.170 Keith Low I think for the compulsory few, I did highlight to them that we need uh like username last name, first name. 0:22:45.180 --> 0:22:50.100 Keith Low Then I think email This this four main main attribute compulsory attribute 1. 0:22:52.690 --> 0:22:53.290 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:22:53.300 --> 0:22:55.660 Duraid Wadie I mean, there's some stuff in here is just. 0:22:55.850 --> 0:22:57.530 Duraid Wadie What I'm looking at this, it works. 0:22:57.580 --> 0:22:59.200 Duraid Wadie They're going on here, to be honest with you. 0:23:5.470 --> 0:23:9.330 Duraid Wadie Yeah, the money, it's a little Sachin, just to review this together. 0:23:9.340 --> 0:23:12.490 Duraid Wadie So they, I mean I I can put my comments into this, right? 0:23:13.100 --> 0:23:16.210 Duraid Wadie But I don't know if you want me to do this without you guys. 0:23:16.220 --> 0:23:16.470 Duraid Wadie Maybe. 0:23:17.450 --> 0:23:21.760 Duraid Wadie Maybe just like 1/2 an hour shift to go one by one and just add comments into these. 0:23:21.770 --> 0:23:22.740 Duraid Wadie I don't know what you guys think. 0:23:27.630 --> 0:23:28.820 Jasmine Tang Yeah, sounds good to me. 0:23:28.830 --> 0:23:29.340 Jasmine Tang Do it. 0:23:29.930 --> 0:23:36.620 Jasmine Tang So you can I just kind of like based on the specifically on the discussion on user import, I think there are a few area. 0:23:36.730 --> 0:23:46.300 Jasmine Tang So right now I think one of it will be the the standard, the standard as in the one that we have in the user import on the attribute that we have right now. 0:23:46.530 --> 0:23:49.20 Jasmine Tang And also we've compared to the rest of it. 0:23:49.30 --> 0:23:50.180 Jasmine Tang So those match one. 0:23:50.190 --> 0:24:8.320 Jasmine Tang I think we have to kind of like make sure it is able to be processed in the user import, but those editional or difference with compared to those that the one that we have right now I think is the one that we need further align across the product and see how do we deal with that right. 0:24:11.20 --> 0:24:11.240 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:24:11.780 --> 0:24:12.60 Jasmine Tang OK. 0:24:15.670 --> 0:24:17.920 Jasmine Tang Yeah, I think sounds like a plan. 0:24:17.930 --> 0:24:18.590 Jasmine Tang Yeah, I think we can. 0:24:17.860 --> 0:24:19.850 Duraid Wadie But my my I mean yeah. 0:24:19.860 --> 0:24:29.190 Duraid Wadie So that's all fine for the my my actually thing trying to understand right, it's just really important is the type of the import. 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:32.260 Duraid Wadie When we say in and this confluence page, yeah. 0:24:33.390 --> 0:24:34.480 Duraid Wadie Uh, so that's one of them. 0:24:34.490 --> 0:24:38.770 Duraid Wadie It says Excel looks excel, CSV blah blah blah. 0:24:38.780 --> 0:24:43.170 Duraid Wadie Is that really the only ways they do on port or is this other ways? 0:24:43.180 --> 0:24:44.990 Duraid Wadie And what is the most used? 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.20 Duraid Wadie I would say, I mean, I'm from here. 0:24:49.30 --> 0:24:51.70 Duraid Wadie I wouldn't know what is the most used method. 0:24:57.550 --> 0:24:59.580 Keith Low But maybe we can look at it from another angle. 0:24:59.590 --> 0:25:10.540 Keith Low If I were to ask each product, what is the most used, I'll get all the different answers as I was a when when I look at that CSV is 1 common method which albums are point. 0:25:11.40 --> 0:25:12.690 Duraid Wadie But the problem with CSV right? 0:25:12.700 --> 0:25:31.610 Duraid Wadie So the problem what what happens is you need to think about this bit different here because the quality people right, those people have explosion of number of users, not like arc which is very small usage to be honest with you quality is they haven't this 70 thousand 50,000. 0:25:31.620 --> 0:25:35.550 Duraid Wadie So the massive number of users really would quality. 0:25:37.420 --> 0:25:40.270 Duraid Wadie Somebody needs to do this manually if that makes sense. 0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:49.310 Duraid Wadie Somebody needs to go and actually click upload, so we have to provide the API to this so our APIs needs to be all very well documented. 0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:55.30 Duraid Wadie All examples, if we're gonna do this as we, I don't mind doing this, but we need to give them the other path. 0:25:55.40 --> 0:25:58.240 Duraid Wadie They can automate from the other side that makes sense. 0:26:6.350 --> 0:26:6.720 SueAnn See Do we? 0:26:6.730 --> 0:26:12.940 SueAnn See I thought that even if we do the CSV, we would already need to have API that that, yeah. 0:26:11.830 --> 0:26:15.10 Duraid Wadie We do, but you need to think about it now from customer facing. 0:26:15.470 --> 0:26:16.560 Duraid Wadie That makes sense, yeah, yeah. 0:26:15.290 --> 0:26:16.580 SueAnn See OK. Yeah. 0:26:30.730 --> 0:26:31.200 Keith Low OK. 0:26:31.210 --> 0:26:31.970 Keith Low Any other question? 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.950 Ping Ping Lau During the sessions and you suggested does. 0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:47.810 Ping Ping Lau Now I think for PvP had it after we confirm whether we go for oscillator because I. 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:48.60 Duraid Wadie Of course. Yeah. 0:26:48.70 --> 0:26:48.400 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah. 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:49.580 Ping Ping Lau Yeah. 0:26:49.590 --> 0:26:51.960 Ping Ping Lau So we, yeah, how? 0:26:51.290 --> 0:26:54.130 Duraid Wadie Yesterday, actually we have this session with the CTO anyway. 0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:55.490 Keith Low Ah yeah. 0:26:55.500 --> 0:26:58.410 Keith Low So, uh, today you'll be in, I mean, in that session. 0:26:57.480 --> 0:26:59.360 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:26:58.700 --> 0:26:59.630 Keith Low OK, OK. 0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:0.910 Keith Low I heard from Christy Peru. 0:27:0.920 --> 0:27:3.110 Keith Low He will be do in the session too. 0:27:4.250 --> 0:27:4.860 Duraid Wadie Yeah, yeah. 0:27:4.870 --> 0:27:5.590 Duraid Wadie Chris will be there too. 0:27:6.840 --> 0:27:8.400 Keith Low You're really bang uh. 0:27:8.410 --> 0:27:10.630 Keith Low I mean from office and next week is back to normal. 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:11.680 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:27:11.690 --> 0:27:12.840 Duraid Wadie Yeah, next week back to normal. 0:27:13.250 --> 0:27:16.680 Keith Low OK, I think good for you. 0:27:17.510 --> 0:27:18.510 Duraid Wadie And thank you. 0:27:18.80 --> 0:27:19.570 Keith Low Uh, OK. 0:27:19.580 --> 0:27:19.990 Keith Low Thanks a lot. 0:27:20.0 --> 0:27:20.280 Keith Low Thank you. 0:27:26.330 --> 0:27:27.80 Keith Low Thing if there's. 0:27:24.30 --> 0:27:27.480 Ping Ping Lau OK, I this all maybe have it. 0:27:27.90 --> 0:27:33.180 Keith Low Yeah, if there's nothing more than, I think that's all for to this session, we I think we have to reconnect again after the decision for off 0. 0:27:35.110 --> 0:27:35.270 Duraid Wadie Yeah. 0:27:35.90 --> 0:27:35.360 Ping Ping Lau OK. 0:27:36.450 --> 0:27:36.860 Keith Low OK. 0:27:36.870 --> 0:27:37.150 Keith Low Thank you. 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:38.431 Ping Ping Lau Again that, I E. 0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:38.500 Duraid Wadie Thank you everyone. 0:27:38.510 --> 0:27:38.920 Duraid Wadie Thank you. 0:27:38.750 --> 0:27:39.520 Keith Low OK. 0:27:38.950 --> 0:27:39.670 Jasmine Tang Thanks to it. 0:27:39.970 --> 0:27:40.180 Keith Low OK. 0:27:40.190 --> 0:27:40.370 Keith Low Bye bye. 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:40.580 Jasmine Tang Thanks everyone. 0:27:40.180 --> 0:27:40.610 Duraid Wadie Thank you. 0:27:40.620 --> 0:27:41.180 Duraid Wadie Thank you. 0:27:41.260 --> 0:27:41.570 Duraid Wadie Thank you. 0:27:41.580 --> 0:27:41.730 Duraid Wadie Bye bye. The above is the transcript for a meeting. Read thru it and check about the estimation for Auth0. Is below statement correct? we cant provide any estimation for the Auth0 related for now 1) UI for SAML will need to work out with ping ping to know all the related fields to be configure for Auth0 and ping ping mentioned lets wait for the confirmation between Auth0 vs cognito first and 2) User Import- Duraid suggest to have separate call to further discuss this area.

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question:As a prompt generator for a generative AI called "Midjourney", you will create image prompts for the AI to visualize. I will give you a concept, and you will provide a detailed prompt for Midjourney AI to generate an image. Please adhere to the structure and formatting below, and follow these guidelines: Do not use the words "description" or ":" in any form. Do not place a comma between [ar] and [v]. Write each prompt in one line without using return. Structure: [1] = 设计一个IP形象，机器人工程师，卡通形象，眼睛蓝色，微笑的表情，科技感 [2] = a detailed description of [1] with specific imagery details. [3] = a detailed description of the scene's environment. [4] = a detailed description of the compositions. [5] = a detailed description of the scene's mood, feelings, and atmosphere. [6] = A style (e.g. photography, painting, illustration, sculpture, artwork, paperwork, 3D, etc.) for [1]. [7] = a detailed description of the scene's mood, feelings, and atmosphere. [ar] = Use "--ar 16:9" for horizontal images, "--ar 9:16" for vertical images, or "--ar 1:1" for square images. [v] = Use "--niji 6" for Japanese art style, or "--v 6" for other styles. Formatting: Follow this prompt structure: "/imagine prompt: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [ar] [v]". Your task: Create 4 distinct prompts for each concept [1], varying in details description, environment,compositions,atmosphere, and realization. Write your prompts in english. Do not describe unreal concepts as "real" or "photographic". Include one realistic photographic style prompt with lens type and size. Separate different prompts with two new lines. Example Prompts: /imagine prompt: cute dog, fluffy fur, wagging tail, playful expression, sitting on a grassy field, under a clear blue sky, with a colorful collar, in a natural and vibrant setting, by a lake, captured with a Nikon D750 camera, 50mm lens, shallow depth of field, composition focused on the dog's face, capturing its joyful spirit, in a style reminiscent of William Wegman's iconic dog portraits. --ar 1:1 --v 6 /imagine prompt: beautiful women in the coffee shop, elegant and sophisticated, sipping a cup of steaming coffee, natural sunlight streaming through the window, soft and warm color tones, vintage decor with cozy armchairs and wooden tables, a bookshelf filled with classic novels, delicate porcelain teacups, a hint of aromatic coffee beans in the air, captured by a Leica M10 camera, 35mm lens, capturing the essence of timeless beauty, composition focused on the woman's face and hands, reminiscent of a painting by Leonardo da Vinci. --ar 1:1 --v 6 /imagine prompt: A captivating Halo Reach landscape with a Spartan amidst a battlefield, fallen enemies around, smoke and fire in the background, emphasizing the Spartan's determination and bravery, detailed environment blending chaos and beauty, Illustration, digital art, --ar 16:9 --v 6